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  1. bastdazbog
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    The ending of Queer as Folk (US) for me was an incredibly bittersweet ending and it fueled my obsession with the show and its characters. I re-watch the series hoping against hope that something has magically changed and the ending is different (completely illogically I know, but it is an emotional hope rather than a rational, thinking kind of hope). My heart breaks the same now as it did years ago when I saw the ending for the first time, and I think that is a testament to how powerful a bittersweet/unresolved ending can be. It leaves you aching for more, and thus it keeps your thoughts/feelings focused on that story/tv show/ movie.
    There is a particular ache brought on only by a bittersweet ending. It’s not a bad ache, in its own way it is a good feeling, and I do sometimes want to feel it, so I will deliberately chase it by seeking out movies or stories that provoke that sharp lingering ache. It isn’t something I want a steady course of, but it adds an extra layer, or intensity, to the HEA stories I regularly read.

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  2. andrewqgordon
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    I remember well the ending of QAF and agree, it’s not the ending you want, but it is what happened and more it is what happens at time. I’m not sure most of us could take a steady diet of tragic love stories, but they do remind us that everything isn’t rainbows and unicorns.

    Thanks for adding to the discussion. (Now I have to go back and watch QAF again. 😀 )

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  3. felinewyvern
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    I’m too much of an optimist to appreciate those kind of endings (I even found a silver lining at the loss of my husband). I think that’s why I liked the ending of Mercedes Lackey’s Last Herald Mage – I need that hopefulness to fit my mind set. If she had ended it at the point of the’ sacrifice for love and country’ I would not have liked it as much, nor been able to reread it as often as I do.

    I think if you like that bitter sweet ending or if, like me, you prefer a little more hope at the end then I like to think there are authors out there to cater to both choices.

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  4. andrewqgordon
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    I agree that the Last Herald Mage ended the way it needed to, but while you found it to be necessary, I felt a bit cheated – even though I liked it. What I find interesting in your answer is how you wouldn’t have liked or re-read it as much with out that last little bit at the end. The question then becomes, would it have been as popular without it and the answer is probably no.

    Thanks for taking a moment to respond.

    Andy

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  5. Allison
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    This is a difficult question for me. I agree that often a bittersweet ending stays with me longer but sometimes I have a hard time accepting the reasoning behind it. I think it depends on how it fits the story and the causes for it.

    As far as QAF’s ending I basically decided in my head that they stayed together in whatever way they could. Honestly though, assuming we’re discussing Brian’s and Justin’s storyline, it would have rung false if they’d ended it the way they’d originally presented it. That ending wasn’t true to the characters.

    Maybe that’s the most important thing for me, it has to stay true to the characters and the storyline. Either way though I need something happy, maybe even sappy after reading something like that.

    And yay, monthly posts! I look forward to reading them. 🙂

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  6. andrewqgordon
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    Hey Allison, thanks for reading. One of the things I really didn’t play up in the post is that killing off a main character is like chewing off your arm for an author. It’s NOT easy. We love them as much as readers do – maybe more. But as you point out – being true to the character and and the story sometimes requires it or else you need to do literary cartwheels to figure a way out of it. And we’ve all done that before too.

    Thanks for stopping by and yep, monthly on the 29th for as long as they’ll have me 😀

    -AQG

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    1. Allison
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      I beta for a few authors and I’ve had that discussion a number of times with one of them so I do understand how difficult it is to some extent. 🙂

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  7. Bonnie Herbert
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    I love happy endings. If it’s not a happy ending I want the illusion that it could still happen. Like in QAF -it could still happen in a reunion show. Still have my fingers crossed for that. If it’s a series there is always the chance in the next book. I’m not sure how far into a series I would make it if I didn’t think I would eventually get my happy ending, even if it isn’t what I thought I wanted at the beginning.
    I was just talking to a friend about this earlier today. I do read to feel good and don’t want to be depressed at the end of a book. So…. Done rambling. Yes I like a happy ending.

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    1. andrewqgordon
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      Thanks Bonnie, I suspect you’re pretty much with the majority in your love of the HEA. That seems to be the common theme and I get it, just figured I’d ask about the alternative 😀

      Thanks for chiming in.

      -AQG

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  8. kfieldingwrites
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    I really like *reading* bittersweet endings. But I have a hard time writing them, partly because I know a lot of readers will want to tar and feather me. But mostly because I love my characters. I killed off a supporting character in one of my books and it was really, really painful.

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    1. andrewqgordon
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      Kim – Thanks for adding your POV. I’m sure readers would have killed YOU if you had killed Brute or any of your other MC, so I can see why you’d be slow to embrace this. I’m not sure I can do it either.

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  9. Lindsayb
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    I prefer to have an HEA in my books. In some stories I’ve really loved having a dual outcome- the best I can think of is with the character Bill from Kim Fielding’s “The Tin Box”. If I sit down and think of it, I’ll still get teary eyed just imagining how many people had a similar fate and the sadness of it made the HEA of the main characters even more emotionally satisfying in a way. Or books that manage to have a happy ending despite one heck of a twist like “Woke up in a Strange Place”, or a story that follows characters thru their lives, up until the end like “Always” by Kindle Alexander that I read recently- tempering the sadness with looking back on a full, well-lived life. All three of those books had me sobbing- but still had such amazing, tender, and loving parts. I’m not sure you could say they are bittersweet per se, but they each have aspects that are incredibly sad.

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    1. andrewqgordon
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      Lindsay, I think you’ve touched on one aspect I never delved into – the ‘death do us part’ ending. Like you said, a rich full life together is hardly sad, even though one party has to live on, but it is still not exactly the classic HEA.

      Thank you for stopping by and adding to the discussing.

      -AQG

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